Going to be Blunt

[Destroyer Unleased]

Well the time has come for me to post something about how I feel about XVI. Plain and simple before I get in to the dark side of the coin I would like to first say some words about the postives I feel.

XVI was the FIRST e-fed that I joined. Since my joining just before Valentine's Massacre I have NOT asked for a single week off. I have had the most match filled career possible. Now I am not complaining about how booked I have been. No I see it as a compliment and sign that I can be counted on to follow through with my RPs for a given week.

Right now I am member of three efeds. And to each I make sure that I post a good RP. Yes sometimes it is can get hectic for me BUT no matter what I post SOMETHING original and unique. I have a total of 6 CURRENTLY ACTIVE efed characters. 4 of who are in one fed.

Now does this mean I am any less loyal to XVI. NO it just means I enjoy dealing with a variety of fedding styles. But anyway moving on. I enjoy the character develop that goes on here. Also the seeming ease that we get along here.

BUT there are problems in XVI that NEED to be addressed. AND not just ignored. THERE are back stage politics that make my RPing here more of a chore then a form of enjoyment. Maybe I am just bitter over the way I personally have been treated here BUT I am not sure I am the only one.

Simply put I sit facing a big match this week BUT have NO inspiration. Why is this? Well simply put I have worked my ass off for the last PPVs doing my level best to pick up a win. In the process I have grown as a character BUT that isn't my complaint.

I have constantly been overlooked for people are showing that their RPs are mostly lyrics or some thing that is totally unoriginal. Maybe I am too attached to the character I RP with here BUT that doesnt' change the fact that I have beaten certain people here in another fed when BOTH of us have used the same RPs that we have used here.

No this is not the first time I have posted that I am sick of being treated like a second rate member of XVI. No since then I have waited and worked my ass off to see if things would change. BUT sadly they have only gotten worse.

Now anyone can post a 3 page RP that is a half lyrics. I have even done it once or twice BUT in such a way the lyrics actually further the RP not as the start or end.

But I drift off the topic at hand. I have quite frankly lost my motivation to RP here in the XVI. I mean I don't even know how to RP any more to pull of a win. Sure I RP the way I do thinking I have a match won only to lose it.

Again maybe I am just over sensitive BUT Prozac quit because of the same thing. Simply put we are sick of losing to people here that use the SAME RPs in another fed as the do here and lose.

Ask Calaz why he quit FWF...He was using the SAME RPs there as he uses here and was losing. I personally beat him 3 separate times. Now again maybe I not seeing the "big picture" here BUT from what I see is a a bunch of backstage politics that have to me at least started to make me question if I am welcome here.

I really don't want to quit XVI but I will if my best efforts to come up with RPs EVEN when I have shown that I am BY FAR the most active (as on a weekly basis) RPer here.

It saddens me to say this but I might have to quit what is my first ever Efed not because of the people here but because of the way things are run.

Well I will leave what will probably be my last ever post here in XVI with what I have posted.

["The New Era Icon" David Calaz]

You are being blunt so i hope you expect blunt replies

Bullshit....

Firstly I am on this site every fucking day, i post every week, i get a week off teh show when im told i have a week off, i was first to sign up, so dont talk about being the only active member.

Ask me why i quite FWF, i quit because i wasnt wining, fair enough, but was i facing you every week, no it was others aswell, i wanted to leave FWF because i didnt have the passion for it anymore because i was losong every week, that is no ones fault but my own so i left to improve. Dont make assumsions before you know facts.

Also to be blunt I personally am sick of you wihining and complaining that you lose. I beat you here, you beat me there, different people voting different ways, things dont go your way, as far as lyrics go they are there to help get a feel for teh RP, i ask not to be judged on them and have done since i started doing so, one more little FACT you missed out.

And you feel like your treated unfairly, maybe you feel that way because you always find something to complain about, you have won your fair share of matches, you win some and you lose some, as far as the PPV goes I posted 2 solid RP's to your 1 Solid RP, logic works that I win.

Dont make a personal attack on me and try and cover it up with "a certain person" or words to that effect because i find it and you insulting.

As far as i'm concerned i hope you leave because before all your whining and complaining i liked you, you are a good RPer but your a prick to be fair. So cya

[Destroyer Unleased]

Well as to your second RP I didn't have to to go hunting through Jordan's RPs (or any one elses for that matter) to see if you had posted anything. I was rushed to get the one RP I posted up. so seeing that second RP does changes things a bit. I had to move suddenly and my only net access is 50 miles away 2 days a week max right now so I don't have time I once did to look through RPs that should hold no baring on the match I personally am in. So I apologize for that.

Really there are times when ALL you have time fore is to see if you opponent posted not time to look through all the other threads to see if maybe just maybe the opponent posted a joint RP with someone.

I have been pressed for time lately so had no clue until a few minutes ago. I saw one RP from the both of us straight up...So look at it from my point of view.

["The New Era Icon" David Calaz]

Well I have spoken to yuo on MSN about all this so no need to talk to you anymore than i have to...

But i will say this

you are the only one with a problem, as far as i know, so i know open this topic for discussion, if you have a problem say it now, or if you want to praise the work that Mak and Chan are doing tehn post it here aswell. We can then see who else, if anyone has problems with the way teh fed is run. I'm sure Mak and Chan will see this thread so they will see what you say. This goes for EVERYONE!

[Rob]

calaz said:

And you feel like your treated unfairly, maybe you feel that way because you always find something to complain about,

Thor was treated unfair a few months ago when he lost to Jake for the Nextgen title. He lost because he was being "punished" Mak's words for something he said or did that Mak didn't like. I was also "punished" by Mak because he says that someone writes my RPs when that never happened, so I lost my last few matches because he wanted to punish me....this is a fed not a school, you shouldn't lose because you annoyed the owner

["The New Era Icon" David Calaz]

Well Thor informed me personally that Mak made Thor lose that match to move him up the divisions. Ask Thor yourself, he told me that under 2 hours ago.

And did Mak tell you that you were being punished, or did you (just liek this thread) assume that? thats the problem here, people are talking before they check on things.

[Rob]

Mak told me I was punised

And he also told me months ago when Thor lost it was because he was punished.

[Ticker]

Well going have to say a word on this I think XVI is quality i have had no problems here I am quite new here and i am winning people that are old timers here i dont see a problem. XVI is a great place i come on here everyday checking if other people have RPed and then i RP every week and i havent had one week where i have not had a match and every week i done my best to win. So i see no problems with XVI . so my hats off to mak and chan your doing a fucking class job on here so thanks and thats my word on it all!!!!!!

[~*The Pride of Ireland*~]

*Sigh* Here comes the old Bastard of XVI, master match writer, which makes me privy to alot of XVI's backstage politics. So i will let you all in on a few secrets that i am sure Dan or Chan will have no problems allowing me to do.

Prozac, i loved your material. But Everyone pretty much agreed, your roleplaying, although entertaining, was just a bunch of goofing off with Ritalin and really not enough meat added to your feuds. I loved your RPs, but you simply fell behind the wayside by not, in lack of better words, concentrated enough. I've seen your stuff in FWF, and if you spent that much energy into XVI, you'd be world Champ, hands down. But things happen. And i still hope that you and Bert are doing ok...

Thor, once again, i loved your material. And to be honest, yes backstage politics were involved in the begining. You didnt win the Hellfire House of Fun match because to be honest, and i really dont want this to hurt you, but your material for that match just wasnt nearly good enough for the win. If anything, Jordan Glass should have retained, but he needed to be moved up the card. Just on that roleplaying period, there was better than your effort in that match.

But as for the other circumstances, i dont have yahoo messenger for the moment, *a big reason why im not back full time yet* so i cannot tell you why David won over you. But its my firm belief that sooner or later, someone of your calibur cannot be ignored for long. Look at Rachel, she was XVI Xtreme Champ, and now is in contention for the Next Gen. Some may say thats a step down, but shes a damn trooper and a damn set more patient than anyone i know. And i know that sooner or later, someone of her calibur will be found a use for too. Patience in a virtue, and although we are not one of those new feds that offer people World Title shots on the first card, that should only fuel your fire further into wanting to grasp your hands on the most prestigious titles in CAW Efedding today. Because its so hard to grasp, it should be cherished even further.

And as far as i can see, your not being overlooked or mistreated. You are side by side with Mr. Ultimate Assault Jordan Glass as our two and only two columnists of XVI. A position i envy of you greatly. This should show you that you are very valuable to XVI, and very appreciated.

As for the Musical Lyrics into rps, i will be frankly honest. Its really....really boring. I skip through the lyrics every time. No offense to anyone who uses such methods, but if i were in charge of rating your rps for a win or not, you wouldnt be getting my vote. Just being Honest! lol.

I hope this information helps anyone with a Beef. (Wellington).

[Rob]

Hello Corp you seem to be make the most sense so far, but a few little details everyone agreed it was goofing off, who is everyone? And did you really read my RPs in FWF? They are the same ones I used in XVI, copy and pasted, because when I write them I write them so they would be easy to edit, like change names and what not.

And add meat to feuds? I haven't had any feuds.

My style was funny, others wanted to be more serious, so you are saying I should lose because my style isn't like others?

Now really I really want you to read my last few RPs I did against Calaz in the KOTR, like "Mail Time", or "Game Night" or whatever I called them and I really want you to tell me they were goofing off.

[~*The Pride of Ireland*~]

I read one of your RPs that someone had rated that you could have gone alot farther with, which was already looking like it was 5 pages and i was like "What?!". But anyway, that could also be a reason you didnt have much success. When your lazy and just copy and paste your roleplays for multiple feds, your guranteed to get differant perceptions on the quality of your work.

I was more or less talking about your rps about the island, the movie theatre which they didnt have TMNT in, those kind of things.

Also, with your current situation, chances were slim to aboslutely none that you were going to win. Same thing with me Rob. We got automatically bumped off because of the hardships we are currently facing, and we needed a King of The Ring who we knew was going to be able (and perfectly willing) to stick around and take advantage of it.

It wasnt that your style needed to be more serious, it was just, you were more slapstick goofing off wiht Ritalin funny rather than being more directly involved with your feud funny. I dont know, for christ sakes be unoriginal and do a midget impression. I'm not ragging on your work, but most of it just seemed more fitted for a character development style than actually "I'm gonna go in there, fuck him up, take his woman, slap his kid, and raid his fridge while shitting on his toilet." lol...

We tried having you fued with me, which went down the toilet for reasons i dont even know. You were feuding with Jordan Glass and Jake Xavier for a long while. And we tried to get you against the Unholy Legion too...just nothing we got you with seemed to stick. And for that i am sorry. I for one do miss your roleplays around here. And thats the best truth i can offer.

[Rob]

But you Just said you read my RPs in FWF and if I did that hear I would be world champ, now your different lol, Truth is my life problems are a lot yes, but I still can use the comp so I would of been the king of you ring that you needed, if I lost for that reason that's where the pro.blem is. This is an RP fed, not a storyline, or he losses because he has this going on and what not.

Now about the feuds I would of made them work if someone told me I was feuding, if I just see my name against anyone, ill RP to RP, if you told me I was going to feud I would of RPed so it could of worked.

My RPs are far beyond perfect, I need alot more practice to get up to higher levels, but when I put out RPs like I did against Calaz and loss because I was being "punished" that's where the problem is

[~*The Pride of Ireland*~]

Well, what i can say i DONT know is why Dan was punishing you man. I dont know what kind of issues are going on there, i can only try to put insight on what i know.

Now i had said that you would be world champ here, but that is also because i didnt know you were just copying and pasting roleplays man. I thought you were actually putting alot of effort into FWF. Not to say you werent, its just seems that way.

I read your latest rps on the time i joined. I also read Thors, Calaz', as well as a number of others who share homes with FWF and XVI. Mainly because i was trying to see for myself where everyones loyalties lied. Whether they were giving 100% to one fed and neglecting the other. Take that as you will, but i never told anyone else this information until now, so my choices when asked who wins is not based on that. But i was curious to say the least.

Now just to say another thing (not to address that the convo is over, just finalizing my post) yes, this is an efed. And roleplaying skills should matter in these kind of things. But sometimes, outside factors, and storylines play into the decision making. Sometimes, and even veterans like Chan will admit this, the better rper has to lose to help storylines progress. I know that doesnt help but sometimes thats how its done. For the feds sake and helping to grow stories. Which here is MY theory on the ending of the King of the Ring (Keep in mind i had no place in choosing the outcome)

Even without consulting the Rping, it could have been decided that Calaz should win due to the debut of Seraphim. If Jordan and Calaz had not gotten involved in each others matches and helped each other screw their opponents, then the teamwork would have automatically been called into question. If Thor were allowed to beat Calaz on the finals, then that would further weaken the effectiveness of this new faction. Making Calaz look like Jordan was carrying his weight around.

Do i like that theory? No. But i certainly like it better than a faction of Dark Halo, Jihad, X-ecutioner, and Makaveli running rampant to no end with an unstoppably dominant faction.

[Rob]

Dan was punishing me because he thinks I was having other people write my RP, which is completely false

When I copy and paste my RPs they are done to my best, I see no reason to write a RP and let it only be used once, also I always did XVI RPS first since the deadline was before any of my others. But the RPs I did for KOTR were XVI only RPs, I put everything into those and I never choice one fed over the other. I put 100% into each of my RPs.

And the letting certain people win because of storyline reasons in an RP fed I don't like, but I know its done sometimes, but I disagree completely for storyline wins in such a big match like the King of the Ring.

["The New Era Icon" David Calaz]

Maybe it was because you wernt putting as much effort in here as you were in FWF, and you know that. Id look at your matches in FWF and you would post during the week the same with Ritalin, but here you would post 3 or 4 on the last day. To me that is pure disrespect especially when your opponent posts during the week and gives you time to reply, but on a weekly basis you and Ritalin were saving them ALL for the last day.

You showed me and teh rest of your oppnents you did this to a complete lack of respect, and for me someone who saw you as a friend I was shocked that you did that.

Now I'm not saying that you were punished because of this, but it could be a factor, because the way I say it is if your in 2 feds you put as much effort into both of them, hence teh reason I left FWF, I left because I wasnt putting teh effort in anymore because I wanted to win and all I did was lose, I got sick of losing so I left to improve. Now I'm only in the one fed I can get RP's out every week and have a chance to improve.

And Rob as Ive stated above, you hug the deadline every week here, but not in FWF, that shows to me a lack of respect for the fed and you opponent, maybe the voters thought that way also?

Think about it.