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Post by ~*The Pride of Ireland*~ on Jun 27, 2007 12:14:18 GMT -5
I dont doubt that anyone is capable of murder. And yes Chan, i wasnt in his head. But reports and feelings from his closest friends, the ones who DID understand him. Knew him as a friendly, down to arth man who took great pride in his son.
I do not disbelieve that he could do it because he was "in the limelight" and for trying to tell me thats the reason i did not believe he was capable of it, your flat out wrong. And doubly rude for saying so. Sorry if that sounds offensive.
I didnt believe he was capable of doing it because NO ONE thought he was capable of doing it. Reports all over even say that the texts and behavior of Chris Benoit towards his friends seemed awefully sudden.
The man just got off of training MVP, a guy he liked, and was being a mentor to. He was slated to become ECW Champion, there was no signs of depression or any of this going on inside of him. Yeah he could have hid it very well, but overall this was unexpected for EVERYONE, not just because he was a "Superstar".
So please, dont bash on us because we respected the man for what he had done for wrestling. I will not turn my back and say that now all of those things he has done mean nothing because he is a murderer. I will respect him for his past accomplishments, and no one can expect me to change my entire opinion of him because of this.
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Post by Jordan "Bullet Proof" Glass on Jun 27, 2007 19:10:47 GMT -5
I have a couple of final points to make, then I'm out of this thread. One ; Calaz, his two other children are not parentless. His two other children were from a prior relationship, not marrage, relationship. I am guessing, this isn't verified, that the mother of those two children is caring for them. Two ; Chan, you are right. Even Booker said in an interview, anyone from any walk of life is capable of doing this. A cop, a doctor, a lawyer, a fucking hobo. Some people will only mourn him because he was a celebrity, but we will not. We will mourn him because of who is was and what he has accomplished. He was wrong in killing his wife and son, but he was a very important man to many people and an entire industry. Three ; Greg, we all mourn Nancy and Daniel as well. And yes .. Nancy was hot. Four ; Corp, Bret, Chavo, Booker and many other of his close friends said this is very unlike Chris. Bret said that that is why everyone is having such a hard time coming to terms with it. We all know the kind of men Adam Copeland and Chavo Guerrero were .. both broke down into tears on Monday night. Edge had to end his segment because he could no longer speak he was crying so much. Five ; Uhm .. yeah, I ran out at four. Just my two cents.
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Post by The One on Jun 27, 2007 23:14:45 GMT -5
This man shot his kid up multiple times with steriods.
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Post by The VNB on Jun 27, 2007 23:47:22 GMT -5
Ya know... I have heard that several times today, That he shot his son up with steroids. And what I am about to say now may piss some people off, But oh well... "If" he actually did that and it is true... Well, I am glad he is dead, And I hope the son of a bitch suffered like a motherfucker before he did die. As a father of a 4 year old son, I can not even IMAGINE thinking of shooting my son up with steroids. I mean hell, That man could not be THAT stupid that he had no idea of the dangers of doing this.... In short, My respect for the man, Its long gone. And if anyone is planning on bashing me for the above. Go right on ahead.. You are totally entitled to your opinion. But I will guarentee you one thing... When you become a mother or a father yourself. I promise you will understand EXACTLY where I am coming from...
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Post by The One on Jun 28, 2007 1:02:34 GMT -5
Greg that was pretty much my point on the steriod thing.
Honestly I do not watch wrestling anymore so the fact that he is not in the ring does not bother me. He did not make nor break wrestling. He was good at what he did but was never a complete wrestler as he had no personal skills. And that is all I will say about the Crippler.
I do not hate murders just for being a murderer, it is how they go about it. For all we know he could have been called by his sobbing wife saying that the kid was acting up from riod rage and she tried to hold him down and he got smothered, then when Chris got home he couldn't take it so killed her. After a day of thinking about it he took his own life. Really whatever happend happend and it is sad that a young child and mother are dead because someone could not get help for whatever problems he had. I am not intending on tainting anyones opinion on anybody. It was traggic and it sucks for the families that are left to deal with this. I was not affected personally by this except for the fact that I have seen him on TV since the WCW was the WCW. I am sorry to those of you who looked up to this man as I am sure he was a good rolemodel. Honestly though any man that would inject his own son... let me say that differently... any person that would inject a seven year old with steriods because they are "too small" is not a good person and deserves what helatious path they choose. It is just too bad that a wife and son had to go on the journey.
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Post by "The New Era Icon" David Calaz on Jun 28, 2007 5:53:19 GMT -5
Where has it been said that he injected his son... That is just completely wrong of him. Especially considering Daniel was only 7 years old, as this tragidy unfolds more and more I lose more and more respect for the actual man Chris Benoit, but as i've said in previous posts "The Rabid Wolverine" Chris Benoit I have to respect just for what he did for wrestling.
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Post by "One Taste" Poison on Jun 29, 2007 8:10:05 GMT -5
WWE.com learned from an interview conducted Tuesday by Vancouver’s News1130 that Chris Benoit’s son Daniel possibly suffered from Fragile X Syndrome, a genetically passed-on condition that results in impairments ranging from physical and learning disabilities, to more severe cognitive or intellectual disabilities.
In the interview with News1130, Pam Winthrope, whose own 12-year-old son suffers from Fragile X Syndrome, recounted how she and her husband talked to Benoit about the condition five years ago.
“We talked to him because I was trying to set up a support group in B.C. and in Canada; we only have a couple of them,” she said. “My husband was struggling when we got diagnosed with our son, and Chris was struggling with his. They talked for a few minutes, and then he said he didn’t want to be a public face for Fragile X. He just wanted to keep it really, really quiet.”
A source close to Benoit recalls similar conversations with him, where he described his son’s condition as “a learning disability much like autism.” This source quotes Benoit as saying “Daniel wasn’t capable of interacting with other children and was afraid of other children. Daniel also had a hard time making eye contact with everyone, which was another symptom of his disability.” Benoit also claimed that his son was on medication for this condition.
Winthrope discussed the pressures facing parents of children diagnosed with Fragile X syndrome. During her interview with News1130, she stated that families can be torn apart by the disease because it's very difficult to find help and support. Winthrope added, "You as a parent have to go out there and find what's available and it's not easy -- they don't tell you."
A co-worker and long-time friend of the Benoits speculates that perhaps the pressures of home and Daniel’s illness had gotten to him, causing him to snap and take the lives of his wife and son before taking his own.
“Is it possible that after Chris killed Nancy (for whatever reason), he felt Daniel wouldn't be able to get the care and attention he required as a special needs child (if that is indeed true) with no mother and a father either in jail or dead? Did he then decide that the only way he could protect and take care of his son was to take him to the next world and go with him? In his warped and twisted state, did he think this was the only way to shield his son from a difficult life of pain and hardship? It doesn't condone or justify a damn thing, but it's the best reason I can think of. I'm trying to put together some semblance of logic for his actions, but it's an impossible task trying to explain this.”
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ATLANTA - Investigators are looking into who altered pro wrestler Chris Benoit's Wikipedia entry to mention his wife's death hours before authorities discovered the bodies of the couple and their 7-year-old son. ADVERTISEMENT
Benoit's Wikipedia entry was altered early Monday to say that the wrestler had missed a match two days earlier because of his wife's death.
A Wikipedia official, Cary Bass, said Thursday that the entry was made by someone using an Internet protocol address registered in Stamford, Conn., where World Wrestling Entertainment is based.
An IP address, a unique series of numbers carried by every machine connected to the Internet, does not necessarily have to be broadcast from where it is registered. The bodies were found in Benoit's home in suburban Atlanta, and it's not known where the posting was sent from, Bass said.
Benoit strangled his wife and son during the weekend, placing Bibles next to their bodies, before hanging himself on the cable of a weight-machine in his home, authorities said. No motive was offered for the killings, which were discovered Monday.
Also Thursday, federal drug agents said they had raided the west Georgia office of a doctor who prescribed testosterone to Benoit.
The raid at Dr. Phil Astin's office in Carrollton began Wednesday night and concluded early Thursday, said agent Chuvalo Truesdell, a spokesman for the Drug Enforcement Administration. No arrests were made.
Hours before the raid, Astin told The Associated Press he had treated Benoit for low testosterone levels, which he said likely originated from previous steroid use.
Among other things, investigators were looking for Benoit's medical records to see whether he had been prescribed steroids and, if so, whether that prescription was appropriate, according to a law enforcement official speaking on condition of anonymity because records in the case remain sealed.
Astin prescribed testosterone for Benoit, a longtime friend, in the past but would not say what, if any, medications he prescribed when Benoit visited his office Friday.
State medical records show that Astin's privileges were suspended for three months in 2001 at a Georgia hospital for "reasons related to competence or character."
Astin did not return calls to his cell phone from the AP on Thursday.
Anabolic steroids were found in Benoit's home, leading officials to wonder whether the drugs played a role in the killings. Some experts believe steroids cause paranoia, depression and violent outbursts known as "roid rage."
Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard said in a statement Thursday that he could not immediately comment on the raid.
Benoit's page on Wikipedia, a reference site that allows users to add and edit information, was updated at 12:01 a.m. Monday, about 14 hours before authorities say the bodies were found. The reason he missed a match Saturday night was "stemming from the death of his wife Nancy," it said.
Reporters informed the Fayette County district attorney's office of the posting Thursday, and the agency forwarded the information to sheriff's investigators, who are looking into it, a legal assistant said in an e-mail to the AP.
WWE attorney Jerry McDevitt said that to his knowledge, no one at the WWE knew Nancy Benoit was dead before her body was found Monday afternoon. Text messages released by officials show that messages from Chris Benoit's cell phone were being sent to co-workers a few hours after the Wikipedia posting.
WWE employees are given WWE e-mail addresses, McDevitt said, though he did not know whether Chris Benoit had one.
"I have no idea who posted this," McDevitt said. "It's at least possible Chris may have sent some other text message to someone that we're unaware of. We don't know if he did. The phone is in the possession of authorities."
On Thursday afternoon, the Wikipedia page about Benoit carried a note stating that editing by unregistered or newly registered users was disabled until July 8 because of vandalism.
In other developments Thursday, Ballard told the AP that 10 empty beer cans were found in a trash can in the Benoit home. An empty wine bottle was found a few feet from where Benoit hanged himself, Ballard said.
It could take several weeks for toxicology tests to be completed on Benoit to see what substances, if any, were in his system.
Benoit took four months off from work in 2006 for undisclosed personal reasons, McDevitt said.
"He was feeling depressed, that kind of thing," McDevitt said.
In the days before the killings, Benoit and his wife argued over whether he should stay home more to take care of their mentally retarded 7-year-old son, according to an attorney for the WWE wrestling league.
The child had a rare medical condition called Fragile X Syndrome, an inherited form of mental retardation often accompanied by autism.
Chris Benoit's father, Michael Benoit, declined to comment on the slayings when reached Thursday by telephone in Alberta, Canada. Funeral arrangements were incomplete
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Post by The VNB on Jun 29, 2007 11:05:29 GMT -5
This just keeps getting sadder and sadder. I am starting to think no one will ever come close to knowing just what truly happened or the motives behind it.
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Post by Myst on Jun 29, 2007 12:13:23 GMT -5
The only thing I want to say on this matter is Chris Benoit's son was fragile and weak from what we read and part of his condition means he suffered from this. The steroids that were used on his child I do not believe were because Benoit felt like just giving them to his kid.
As I believe from what I have read online one of the drugs they give children with this sad condition are steriods to help make muscles stronger to protect the weak bones.
I ain't condoning what Benoit did or did not do. I feel as sick about it as anyone but until you know more about his son's condition and the fact the steriods were prescribed. I think that bit shud not be talked upon.
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