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Post by Destroyer Unleased on May 5, 2007 8:23:21 GMT -5
After this week's Side Effect I am going to be taking an indefinate Leave of Absence. I have come to the conclusion my RPs are not good for me to be an active member the The XVI roster and until I improve to the standards that Makaveli has for members I will be working to improve myself on other forums.
I am sorry for any inconvenience this might cause. I will RP for this Side Effect. I do not make this choice to take a break lightly but out of a lack of confidence in what I am capable of.
With deepest regrets and hopes that I will improve enough to be up to par upon a hopefully swift return. Until then good luck to you all and have fun.
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Post by Makaveli The Don on May 5, 2007 8:33:58 GMT -5
You are just pissed you lost. get over it. You're not getting any where if you quit...
If and when you feel "up to par" and you come back.. you're only going to start from the beginning again.
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Post by Destroyer Unleased on May 5, 2007 9:06:05 GMT -5
No I am not pissed about losing Mak. I pissed about not bring taken seriously. From day one I have gotten the impression my character has been treated like a joke. I am just sick of being treated like a second rate member of the fed. Seriously I have only been efedding since February when I joined XVI. Now I know I am not the best RPer on the board but I am for sure one of the most dedicated and consistent ones here.
Now that has got to count for something. There are a handful of members who have had more matches here then I have. And ALL of them have been better treated with more respect then I have been. No I am pissed about losing to someone who has been in this fed for 3 weeks compared to the months the rest of have been here.
I know that some weeks I don't RP as well as I can but I always come up with at least 2 RPs for a match. I quit asking for opinions on my RPs because frankly no one bothered to give any. You want me to improve my RPs BUT yet no one tells me what I need to improve on. Take a look at my stuff from when I first started and then look and my new stuff and I am sure there is some improvement to be seen.
In short it comes down to I WANT to be taken seriously. I write my RPs from real life emotions and have just become fed up with being viewed as a second rate joke by the other members of the Fed. I get treated that way enough in real life and don't need it on a forum.
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Post by ~*The Pride of Ireland*~ on May 5, 2007 11:34:40 GMT -5
Thor and I have talked about this for hours. And i agreed with him on alot of things.
1st off) It was disheartening to see Rachel win the Hellfire House of Fun Match. Mak and I talked for a while about this one as well, and he knows how i feel that i think Rachels character is unfit for the Xtreme Division, as talented as she is, her character unintentionally brings down the prestige that Jordan Glass and Prozac gave that title.
2) I am guilty of this too in not taking Thors character seriously in discussions of who should win matches i write that involves Thor. In an efed world where people are expected to be realistic even though its an Efed, and how somehow Undertaker rip offs get the pushes, D&D like characters like Thor dont fit into a main title mix very well.
3) The Xtreme Division is kind of bulky right now, i know it doesnt LOOK like it, but they are possibly the most used in storylines on the fed. And after the ladder match for the Next Gen, i dont think Thor ever won a match after that. So pushing him into the Xtreme division in the first place was a mistake on managements part. I would say bring him back to Next Gen and let him tear down the house with Ritalin and Jake Xavier. Because if he thinks he needs to improve more, the Next Gen is the division to do that in.
4) And finally, i even told Thor myself, that once Efedding isnt fun anymore, its time to hang up the gloves. Because once it becomes more of a chore than a hobby, then you know it isnt worth your free time anymore. Now one has to admit, Thor has been one of the most active guys on the board, he never fails to roleplay for a match, hence why he is always put on the card. But i honestly think such dedication should be rewarding in a push of some kind. Dont you?
That is all.
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Post by Rachel on May 5, 2007 21:00:45 GMT -5
I just want to say that is it true that Rachel does not present a very Xtreme persona. I even stated it in an RP when Ally said, "But you forget you're not the least bit extreme". However, I find it to be interesting because its takes the character development farther. She's very heel and thoughtless of others. Also she is cocky and hipocritical. Anyway, I'm sorry if anyone feels slighted. I RPed the best I could for the match, the decision was made, and I went with it. I feel like it makes for good character development, as I said before. I don't mean that Rachel will suddenly be all bad ass extreme, but I just mean whenever her title reign comes to an end, it will have shaped the character in a new way and allow me to take it farther...Nobody wants to burn out on their character...
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Post by The One on May 6, 2007 1:46:59 GMT -5
Thor do what you need to do. But that is not the way to 'have your character be taken seriously.' Mak don't try to put people on blast like that this is not a case of the Genocide era. And CP dude everyone can be in any division, the Xtreme Title is a stepping stone in XVI and has been a corner stone in the WcXf/XVI worlds so anyone even Rachel is the right Champion in this division if they show that they are top notch. Also Thor probably got stepped into the higher division because he is a quality RPer and deserved it regardless of winning or losing the NexGen title. People this is a game, and it is supposed to be fun. You do not always win so Thor if you don't want to be here right now then dude take your time and have fun.
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Post by ~*The Pride of Ireland*~ on May 6, 2007 16:51:06 GMT -5
yeah, like i said, Rachel is a deserving champion, she tried hard and roleplays constantly with quality and dedication. I generalize, and i know that isnt right to do, but when you think hardcore division, you dont really think of Rachel. But there is no doubt that she earned it, period.
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Post by prozac on May 6, 2007 18:16:14 GMT -5
I might as well stick my 2 cents in. I for one don’t care who won it’s a game and everyone losses. But from what I know and have heard people are upset about the outcome. Now as I see it Rachel should not have won. But this is just me talking everyone has the right to think what they want. But anyway I am not taking anything away from Rachel she is a great RPer and a great person but at the PPV I truly believe she should not have won. I even wanted to get more peoples thoughts on this and had a few people read the RPs for the PPV and they all agreed Glass, Thor and I did better. A couple of them even said Corp did better.
What it looks like is Rachel won for storyline reasons and this is suppose to be an RP fed so I believe this is why some people are a little upset.
But as I have said what happened happened and I congratulated Rachel and she does deserve it.
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Post by Makaveli The Don on May 6, 2007 18:35:31 GMT -5
Noooo.
I ran down the winners and it came down to her. Not for story line reasons. Jordan Glass was an exception, however... He is moving up the card and doesn't need the XTreme Title.
She won because I saw the best effort from her. Not because she posted 5 rps.. but because her role plays were unique.
This did not and should not harm anyone in the match... I have plans for every single one that was in this match. Rachel did not win for story line reasons.. Hell, I didn't even make up a story line for her until the decision was made. That's just how it goes down in every matches and just how you said, Prozac, everyone had different opinions.. and mine and the voter's opinion was Rachel did the better effort.
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Post by ~*The Pride of Ireland*~ on May 6, 2007 18:42:13 GMT -5
My two picks were Jordan and Prozac. Jordans moving up. Thor was feuding with Kaos, so that was a bad judgment call on my part. I am my worst critic and believe that everyone in the match did a better job than me. Mak has plans for Calaz and Prozac, and so, Rachel won. It pretty much went down like that.
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Post by prozac on May 6, 2007 19:17:57 GMT -5
That's how I saw it at first to Corp which would mean storylines but as Mak just said it was not like that but I don't know and I am not taking guesses I am to lazy for that.
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Post by "The New Era Icon" David Calaz on May 7, 2007 3:23:07 GMT -5
Well like Rob said a couple o' posts above, it happened, it was like what two weeks ago now, its not gonna change so lets get on with it, personally i dont care if Rachel won, the voters of that match obviously thought she did the best and in the end its their decision.
This is a game, enjoy it, you win some you lose a lot, losing teaches you to improve, if you win all the time you dont improve, you feel you dont need to.
Everyone has there opinions on the house of fun match...mine personally is that I really don't care, I'm in this fed for enjoyment, I enjoyed RPing and reading the match therefore I'm happy Rachel won...well congratulations to Rachel. Alls I will say is she wont have it long when i get her 1 on 1 (Y)
there ya felt this needed a kinda on/off topic answer so i gave you one
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Post by "One Taste" Poison on May 8, 2007 12:17:06 GMT -5
I know i haven't been around much and i've like.. well only just jumped in on this as it happened on this board, but this is what i think. I think you people have lost the true meaning of e-fedding. Prozac, as much as i like you man, your post annoyed me. As much as i dislike rachel (which she probably isn't even aware of) I think what you said was unfair. It wasn't ok for you to come on here saying that more people think you and thor should have won the match... That is putting rachel in an extremely weird position. She should be happy she's just been handed the title, yet your all making her feel like she dosen't deserve it. And losing a match for storyline purpose is the whole deal of e-fedding.. When did this become all about winning, rather then making a good storyline? I've never held a world title. I've thrown countless matches (the one against fade for example) in order for me to have a great storyline. We're writing promo's and storys.... Yes it's nice to be given an "award" or title for how good you are at roleplaying... But for me, roleplaying is all about the reactions from the person im posting with... I remember what i've done, not who i've beaten. Back to the matter at hand. Thor man.. Your an amazing roleplayer, and to say you came from fantasy to wrestling and your as good as you are, you deserve insane props... So you didn't win a title... So what?... You will get there... Persistance my friend. Maybe you should try again.. Maybe you should go for a different title... Maybe you should worry more about carving your name in the history books rather then wondering how much gold you're wearing... I dunno man, in this game, you make your destiny, me and mak just write it. Anyone wanna bitch about what i just said... or can i lock this thread, seeing as it happened so very long ago
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Post by Jordan "Bullet Proof" Glass on May 8, 2007 15:33:09 GMT -5
One thing to say;
I agree with Chan.
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Post by Gein on May 8, 2007 15:52:02 GMT -5
I agree with her to a certain extent. This is mainly because I know what Chan's had to go through in order to dive to some Role Players in order to make a fed interesting, and allow storyline to take over a general win from a better Role Player. I've known her to lose to some people in which a n00b could take on and win, and for this I admire her... and have learnt to take any loss I receive as a learning experience and to use it to my advantage. (Trust me, its hard when all you've ever done is won since you first started out. )...
Anyways, on the point in which I do not agree. I'm one of those people that will spend days on one Role play and put a lot of effort into it, and I also know a few people on both XVI and FWF who do the same thing. Its heartbreaking when you lose to someone that you were much better than, all because they did what? Two extra mediocre role plays when you've put up three fantastic ones. I've been there... and I was pissed. So... I can throughly understand Thor's position. As for Rachel and co... couldn't care less to be honest... mainly because its a fed, I'm not active, you're not my competition, I'm not staff... why should I care?
I know most of you are from WCXF, and from the stories Chan told me (One of the main reasons why I stepped foot into E-fedding in the first place) WCXF had amazing story lines and matches, and come on... Mak... Chan? The old owner and WCXF member... running a fed? Story lines may intervene once in a while. I don't know whether it did in this case, from what I saw... Mak said it hadn't. So... move on, get over it... have a laugh... just be thankful this is only a God damn game and all that was lost was a fake title and a few shit and giggles. You'll get it back again.
As for Thor. You asked me my opinion on your Role Plays a few days back... i still stick by what I said, if you bother to take in my criticism and advice... you won't ever have this problem again.
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